Fanspeak Mock Draft 3.8: What we all know and suppose we all know, post-Mix

Fanspeak Mock Draft 3.8: What we know and think we know, post-Combine

Let’s play the what-if recreation.

What if Arizona drafted Drew Brees with the No. 2 general choose within the 2001 draft as an alternative of Texas offensive lineman Leonard Davis? Brees was a three-year starter at a Huge Ten faculty, Purdue, and completed his profession with 11,792 yards passing, 90 touchdowns and 45 interceptions. He additionally rushed for 900 yards and 14 TDs, together with 521-and-5 his senior yr.

By comparability, Michael Vick, who went No. 1 general that yr, handed for 3,299 yards, 21 TDs and 11 INTs in two seasons as a starter at Virginia Tech, He additionally rushed for 1,299 yards speeding and 17 TDs earlier than getting into the draft after his redshirt sophomore season.

Brees, although, wasn’t drafted till the highest of the second-round, when the then-San Diego Chargers took him.

You couldn’t blame it on measurement, as each had been undersized for the place. Vick was measured at 6-feet, 210 kilos; Brees at a shade over 6-feet, 213 kilos.

So, why such a discrepancy between draft positions?

Velocity. Vick’s 4.33-second 40 stays a Mix report for quarterbacks. And it was his dazzling athletic potential, particularly when working the ball, that had groups salivating.

In hindsight, Brees ought to have gone a lot increased – possibly at the same time as excessive as No. 2 general behind Vick. He was clearly the higher passer between the 2, however Brees wasn’t on the identical planet as Vick athletically.

Now, let’s play the what-if recreation once more.

What if groups deal with Alabama’s Bryce Younger the identical means they did Brees greater than 20 years in the past?

What if groups take a look at his measurement – he measured 5-foot-10, 204-pounds – then take a look at the latest success of gamers his measurement and say, “no thanks?” In any case, the 6-foot-1, 215-pound Baker Mayfield and the 6-foot, 217-pound Tua Tagovailoa aren’t precisely lighting up the league. Kyler Murray, whose mix measurements of 5-foot-10, 207-pounds are virtually similar to Younger’s, had what Vick had going from him: pace. He by no means ran the 40 on the Mix, however the proof is within the pudding, as Murray has been among the many league leaders in QB speeding yards since Arizona drafted him No. 1 general in 2019.

And but, there’s a big section of Cardinals followers who’re prepared to maneuver on from Murray.

So, once more, what if Younger falls out of the primary spherical? He’s forward of the place Murray was at this stage as a passer, however Younger isn’t almost the athlete that Murray was popping out of school.

We’ve seen it earlier than with Brees, and it labored out fairly properly for the longer term Corridor of Famer.

Then once more, Brees most likely ought to have gone within the first spherical, too.

Right here’s what we all know after the Mix

Alabama QB Bryce Younger may be very small. And he didn’t throw on the Mix.
Ohio State QB C.J. Stroud, within the working with Younger to be QB-1, appeared nice. NFL Community draft analyst Daniel Jeremiah known as Stroud’s efficiency, “probably the greatest throwing classes I’ve seen on the Mix,” whereas Nick Shook of stated Stroud “placed on a throwing clinic throughout on-field work, coming about as near good as attainable.” He checked the containers when it comes to his measurables, too, at 6-foot-3, 214-pounds.
Pretty much as good as Stroud was in throwing classes, Florida QB Anthony Richardson had probably the greatest Mix performances of any QB in latest reminiscence. Listed at 6-foot-4, 244-pounds, Richardson drew comparisons to former Florida QB Cam Newton for his measurement, then placed on a present through the agility drills. First, he set a Mix report for quarterbacks with a 40.5-inch vertical. He then had the most effective broad leap ever for a QB at 10-feet, 9-inches. And eventually, his 4.4 40 was the fourth-fastest amongst QBs within the historical past of the occasion.
The 6-foot-4, 229-pound Kentucky QB Will Levis advised reporters on the Mix that he needed to be the best of all time and had a cannon for arm. Levis then went out and backed up his phrases, at the very least when it comes to arm energy, as he averaged 59 mph together with his throws, the third-highest on the Mix since 2017, based on the NFL Community. He additionally impressed throughout crew conferences.
Georgia TE Darnell Washington is large at 6-foot-7, 264-pounds. He additionally caught the ball properly throughout passing drills – did you see that one-handed catch?! – and appeared fluid regardless of his measurement. Right here’s extra eye-popping stats: Washington’s hand measurement, 11 inches, is reportedly the second-largest for a decent finish on the Mix, and his 83 3/4-inch wing span is the biggest.
Following the identical development … Dawand Jones, the previous proper deal with for Ohio State, is even larger at 6-foot-8, 374-pounds with an arm size of 36 3/8-inches and a hand measurement of 11 5/8-inches. All of these measurements had been tops on the Mix, and his wingspan is the second-longest ever on the occasion, based on Marcus Mosher of Professional Soccer Focus.
Georgia go rusher Nolan Smith isn’t notably large at 6-foot-2, 238-pounds, however, man is he quick. Smith’s 40-time of 4.39 seconds is the second-fastest ever for an edge defender and his 10-yard break up of 1.52 is a Mix report. However Smith was plenty of go rushers and defensive linemen who examined and/or ran properly.
Right here’s a enjoyable reality: Dawand Jones, at 374 kilos, minus LSU Kayshon Boutte, at 195-pounds, equals Kansas State RB Deuce Vaughn, who weighed in at a decent 179 kilos. Vaughn, the son of a Dallas Cowboys scout, was listed at 5-foot-5, the shortest participant in Mix historical past.

Right here’s what we expect we all know …

Northwestern offensive lineman Peter Skoronski (6-foot-4, 313 kilos) may not have the measurables to play deal with long-term, however he’s clearly the No. 1 offensive lineman within the 2023 draft.
It’s not an excellent yr to draft a receiver, offensive lineman, linebacker, security or defensive lineman. You would see as many as 5 OTs and two inside linemen go within the first spherical, however that’s extra about provide and demand. There are some good go rushers, however the dropoff is steep after the third spherical. Likewise, the standard at defensive deal with, exterior the highest two or three, is within the late second spherical and the third, but it surely’s actually hit-and-miss after that. And as for the LB class, your crew could skip the place all-together if it hasn’t drafted one by the third spherical. The protection class is tough to judge. You’ve obtained depth, however the highest ranked, Alabama’s Brian Department, ran a gradual 40 (4.58). However the remainder are form of bunched collectively – don’t be shocked if some Spherical 5 and 6 safeties wind up being thought-about “steals.” It’s a tough group to guage.
So, what does that go away? Begin with the 2023 cornerback class. Whereas the category lacks star energy or perhaps a consensus No. 1, as many as seven (!!) CBs might go on Day 1. It’s additionally an incredible yr to draft a working again or tight finish. It’s attainable just one RB goes in Spherical 1, however that’s extra concerning the devaluation of the place than it’s concerning the group’s expertise. Just like the CB class, you’ll find a beginning working again by means of Spherical 4 and possibly even the early elements of Spherical 5. And eventually, you might see as many as 4 tight ends taken within the first spherical, though it’s extra doubtless that two are drafted within the first spherical. This TE class might rival the 2002 class that was headlined by Jeremy Shockey and Jerramy Stevens. Twenty-four tight ends had been drafted that yr, essentially the most taken since 1975 when 26 had been taken (the draft was additionally 17 rounds again then).
It’s a median yr for QBs. You’ve nonetheless obtained the highest 4, adopted by a bunch who might go between Rounds 2 to 4. Then you definitely’ll have some late Day 3 developmental varieties who’re drafted primarily on their traits. , like most years.
Let’s face it, this simply is perhaps a “meh” draft. The one factor saving it proper now could be the sheer variety of good cornerbacks on this draft. There are seven ranked in high 50 within the newest Fanspeak-Jake Rigdon large board, 15 within the high 100 and 37 who’re ranked among the many high 261 prospects, which takes you thru the seventh spherical. In any other case, the truth that this draft can also be deep at tight finish and working again doesn’t actually transfer the needle for many groups. Should you can nonetheless discover a high quality participant, or perhaps a starter, at both place on Day 3, then why take one early?
Jaxon Smith-Njigba’s choice to skip the 40 most likely helped him, because the Ohio State receiver appeared easy in all different drills. (His 3.93-second 20-yard shuttle was the quickest by a receiver since 2013, and his 6.57-second 3-cone drill was the quickest at this yr’s Mix.). The identical may be stated of TCU receiver Quentin Johnston’s choice to skip the 40. He had nice measurables (6-foot-3, 208 kilos; arm size of 33 5/8-inches) and was terrific in agility drills (his 40.5-inch vertical was third-best amongst receivers, and his 11-2 broad leap was tied for second-best). However Jordan Addison was most likely damage by his choice to run the 40 after clocking a good-but-not-elite 40 time of 4.49. His measurements had been less-than-ideal, too.

So, we’ve re-racked the Rigdon large board and are prepared for a brand new tackle Spherical 1 – with a shock omission: Alabama’s Younger. There’s been stories that say Houston could concentrate on different positions this yr, then chase after a QB in 2024.

What if Younger fell to the Texans at choose No. 34?

Spherical 1

1. Indianapolis Colts: QB C.J. Stroud, Ohio State

(commerce with Chicago)

Stroud reminded everybody that over-evaluation is an actual factor in relation to the draft, as a result of the longer a participant is taken into account draftable, the extra time analysts and scouts alike should nitpick them to loss of life. Stroud was clearly the most effective passer on the Mix and has good measurables and traits, and he shouldn’t be dinged for enjoying on a crew filled with NFL prospects. In any case, he’s been the chief for one of many high applications within the nation the previous two seasons. Cease me while you discover one thing that claims he shouldn’t be the No. 1 general choose.

2. Las Vegas Raiders: QB Anthony Richardson, Florida

(commerce with Arizona)

Sure, Richardson has a protracted solution to go when it comes to accuracy, decision-making and expertise. So did Josh Allen and Cam Newton, two gamers of comparable measurement and athleticism. Because the Mix confirmed, you’re taking an opportunity on particular skills like that, then hope for the most effective. Honest or not, groups will doubtless see Richardson as much less of a threat injury-wise than Alabama’s Younger.

3. Carolina Panthers: QB Will Levis, Kentucky

(commerce with Arizona)

Growth, growth, growth. Three picks, three QBs off the board. Don’t be shocked if one thing like this performs out. All these groups (Indianapolis, Las Vegas and Carolina) are determined for a signal-caller. And so they’re all inside attain of buying and selling up – in contrast to Washington, who could really feel buying and selling up from No. 16 is just too cost-prohibitive.

4, Chicago Bears: Edge Will Anderson, Alabama

(commerce with Indianapolis)

Chicago will get its man in any case and picks up a choose or two for shifting down.

5. Seattle Seahawks (through DEN): DL Jalen Carter, Georgia

Carter’s “fall” didn’t final lengthy.

6. Detroit Lions (through LAR): CB Joey Porter Jr., Penn State

Porter has nice measurement and examined very properly on the Mix.

7. Houston Texans: OT Peter Skoronski, Northwestern

(commerce with Las Vegas)

Effectively, this solutions the query of what place Skoronski performs if Houston takes him, because the Texans are fairly proud of their bookend OTs however desperately need assistance at guard.

8. Atlanta Falcons: Edge Tyree Wilson, Texas Tech

The rationale mock drafts preserve sending the Purple Raider to Atlanta is as a result of the Falcons love athletic marvels – which just about sums up the 6-foot-6, 271-pound Wilson.

9. Arizona Cardinals: CB Christian Gonzalez, Oregon

(commerce with Carolina)

Byron Murphy might be gone, making cornerback a giant precedence.

10. Philadelphia Eagles (through NO): S Brian Department, Alabama

Don’t be fooled by Department’s comparatively gradual 40-time – he’s not going to be matched up in opposition to the opposing crew’s quickest boundary receiver. He’s the kind of prospect who may lead the crew in tackles subsequent season. , the crew that had the No. 1 protection in 2022.

11. Tennessee Titans: OT Paris Johnson, Ohio State

Till this stops making sense, you’re going to proceed to see Johnson mocked to Tennessee. Need to get actually loopy? If the Titans moved Johnson to protect, then drafted RT Dawand Jones within the second and middle Luke Wypler within the third, then four-fifths of their line would have performed at Ohio State the previous two seasons.

12. Houston Texans (through CLE): Edge Lukas Van Ness, Iowa

The man’s nickname is “Hercules.” And he ran a 4.58 40 on the Mix at 6-foot-5, 272-pounds. Who cares if he by no means began a recreation in school?

13. Inexperienced Bay Packers: OT Broderick Jones

(commerce with New York Jets for QB Aaron Rodgers)

The Jordan Love period goes to wish a number of assist alongside the offensive line.

14. New England Patriots: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, Ohio State

The Athletic’s Bruce Feldman thinks JSN will go on to get pleasure from many 100-catch seasons on the subsequent stage.

15. Inexperienced Bay Packers: Edge Nolan Smith, Georgia

It’s tempting to go together with Clemson’s Myles Murphy, who, like Tech’s Wilson is a bodily specimen at 6-foot-5, 272-pounds, however the much-smaller, 6-foot-2, 238-pound Smith is a greater scheme-fit and is extremely quick. Plus, The Athletic’s Matt Schneidman had an excellent rationalization Smith’s perceived lack of manufacturing at Georgia: “Smith … did lots of studying in Georgia’s scheme and wasn’t requested to easily pin his ears again.” Smith additionally will get excessive marks for his explosiveness, flexibility, power and management.

16. Washington Commanders: WR Quentin Johnston, TCU

A variety of analysts have Washington taking a cornerback – and, heck, Bryce Younger remains to be out there, for crying out loud. However with so many high quality CBs on this draft, the Commanders got here wait a spherical or two to handle the place, however they received’t discover a receiver as gifted as Johnston on Day 2. And discovering a real No. 2 to Terry McLaurin ought to be a precedence, as rookie Jahan Dotson (523 yards) and Curtis Samuel (656 yards) mixed for 1,179 yards, which was 12 fewer yards than McLaurin’s whole. As for taking a QB right here, doing so simply doesn’t make a ton of sense for a crew whose coach, Ron Rivera, could also be on his means out after this season. Would the brand new teaching employees desire a sub-6-foot QB?

17. Pittsburgh Steelers: Brian Bresee, Clemson

Defensive finish Larry Ogunjobi is unrestricted, Cam Heyward will flip 34 quickly, and DeMarvin Leal, the crew’s 2022 third-rounder, spent extra time as a giant linebacker than wherever else final season.

18. Detroit Lions: TE Darnell Washington, Georgia

Why Washington over Notre Dame’s Michael Mayer? There are lots of tight ends just like the 6-foot-4, 249-pound Mayer. However there’s nobody just like the 6-foot-7, 264-pound Washington.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Edge Myles Murphy

Is he Clelin Ferrell 2.0 or Rashan Gary 2.0?

20. Seattle Seahawks: CB Deonte Banks, Maryland

Tariq Woolen was an enormous discover, however the Seahawks nonetheless want assist in the secondary.


22. LA Chargers: WR Jalin Hyatt, Tennessee

Hyatt has formally moved forward of USC’s Jordan Addison in lots of mock drafts, as he’s larger and quicker.

23. Baltimore Ravens: WR Jordan Addison, Baltimore

Rashod Bateman, the crew’s 2021 first-rounder, may not have preferred what GM Eric DeCosta stated not too long ago about his crew’s not-so-great monitor report for drafting receivers. Reality is, DeCosta is true. In keeping with ESPN, the Ravens’ receivers have the fewest receiving yards and second-fewest catches the previous 12 seasons. And Baltimore additionally haven’t drafted a Professional Bowl since becoming a member of the league 27 years in the past. Yikes. As for Bateman, a groin damage ended his rookie yr after simply 5 video games, then season-ending foot surgical procedure ended his season after six video games this previous season.

24. Minnesota Vikings: CB Devon Witherspoon, Illinois

At 5-foot-11, 181-pounds, Witherspoon is a bit smaller than perfect, however he stays an ascending prospect who might simply as simply be the primary cornerback drafted.

25. Jacksonville Jaguars: TE Michael Mayer, Notre Dame

Sure, the crew franchise tagged Evan Engram. Meaning that is most likely Evans’ final yr in Jacksonville, with or with out Engram. Frankly, it’s not a good time to be a free agent tight finish because of the latest inflow of younger expertise, each final yr and on this draft.

26. NY Giants: RB Bijan Robinson, Texas

Let the Giants begin a brand new development: Draft a stud working again within the first spherical each 5 years, then repeat the cycle. You’d all the time get a younger, cheap expertise at that place …

27. Dallas Cowboys: Jahmyr Gibbs, Alabama

This situation would actually paint Dallas right into a nook. Their high draft wants embody receiver and cornerback, however the most effective ones are off the board. Does taking the No. 3 tight finish on this draft make sense when you have already got two-up-and-coming TEs getting into their second season? That is means too excessive to take a 1-tech, one other want. And taking a guard would power the crew to decide on the Tyron Smith/Tyler Smith/Terence Steele trifecta. However proprietor and GM Jerry Jones has already come out and stated that he’d like so as to add extra offensive playmakers, and also you don’t get far more explosive than Alabama’s Gibbs. He’ll kind a fearsome 1-2 punch with the franchise tagged-Tony Pollard for a yr, then will most likely take over because the lead again if the crew strikes on from Pollard in 2024.

28. Buffalo Payments: G O’Cyrus Torrence, Florida

A strong choose at a place of want.

29. Cincinnati Bengals: LB Jack Campbell, Iowa

It is a robust one, as a result of safeties Jessie Bates, Vonn Bell, cornerback Eli Apple and tight finish Hayden Hurst are all presently unrestricted. And there are strong gamers at these positions who’re nonetheless out there. However Germaine Pratt can also be unrestricted, and Campbell is an ascending prospect who will most likely lead his crew in tackles as a rookie.

30. New Orleans Saints (through SF): Calijah Kancey

New Orleans obtained its QB in Derek Carr, and the crew has some fairly good weapons on offense together with a reasonably strong offensive line. However holes stay. What’s the sport plan for the approaching Alvin Kamara suspension? Who’s the No. 2 receiver behind Chris Olave? Are you able to improve the defensive deal with place? On this case, New Orleans goes with the undersized however extremely efficient Kancey.

31. Philadelphia Eagles: LB Drew Sanders, Arkansas

Sanders put up Micah Parsons-like numbers final season and has Parsons-like measurement and athleticism.

32. Kansas Metropolis Chiefs: OT Dawand Jones, Ohio State

With proper deal with Andrew Wylie already an unrestricted free agent, deal with was already a precedence for the Chiefs. And if the crew lets Professional Bowl left deal with Orlando Brown go away through free company? (BTW, that seems to be the path the crew is leaning.) Then don’t be shocked if Kansas Metropolis double-dips on the place and indicators a veteran, albeit at a less expensive value. Taking the largest human within the draft is a pleasant place to begin.

Who’s Left

Los Angeles Rams, second spherical: CB Emmanuel Forbes, Mississippi State

Cleveland Browns, second spherical: WR Zay Flowers, Boston Faculty

Miami Dolphins, second spherical:  RB Tyjae Spears, Tulane

Denver Broncos, third spherical: OT Tyler Steen, Alabama

San Francisco 49ers, third spherical: RB Kendre Miller, TCU


Jake Rigdon (@jrigdon73) covers the NFL draft for His large board is up to date at the very least as soon as per week through the season and main as much as the draft. Message him on Twitter to obtain $3 off your new Final GM subscription.

Author: Douglas Rodriguez